From weng@cse.msu.edu Sun Mar 5 15:25:12 2000 From: Dr John J Weng Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 15:25:09 -0500 (EST) To: wdl@cse.msu.edu Subject: WDL Dis. #17 ======== WDL Dis. #17 (Bcc: all WDL participants) ====== Dear Susan, I understand your points in emphasizing genetics in development. They are consistent to my views: Genetics has "designed a lot" in the first four levels (timing, architecture, representation and inborn behavior) including the representation level that you emphasized. It is a major mandate of this workshop to discuss what they are and how to understand and design them. However, I think the term "prior knowledge" is too vague and misleading. Some papers that were arguing against each other were so vague that the same terms were used for different meanings. Often, they are not really not incompatible: what they argue is mainly emphasis. It is more beneficial to identify precisely what the term means. That is why I listed the five levels. I think it is better to use the term "knowledge" for information that is acquired after the birth. But I am not interested in arguing just for terms. Why ``ad hoc?'' Currently, the main paradigm in psychology is to study phenomena of human cognition and behavior. This is the beginning stage of a young scientific field. Early studies of a field tend to be ad hoc in nature since they can only explain a special case under a specific condition. This is what is called phenomelogist stage of a field. When the field matures, systematic knowledge is discovered and all the known phenomena that were observed (including those that could not be explained clearly and were subject to heated debates) can be explained clearly by newly discovered systematic natural laws. This maturation process has happened in physics, astronomy, chemistry, and more recently in biology, thanks to the advance in genetics. For example, genetics gives a more systematic picture of biology than the early phenomelogist studies of biology. I am not saying that the entire field of psychology is ad hoc. Some researchers in psychology have begun to move in the right direction, which marks a move to maturation of a field. They have started to study the developmental root (timing, architecture, representation) and developmental models of human cognition and behavior. I just mention a few of them here: J. McClelland, J. Elman, K. Plunkett, G. M. Edelman, and E. Thelen, just to keep the list short. Yes, there are decisions made in these levels, but these levels systematically determine, in conjunction with experience, what comes later after birth. It is easier to attribute something unknown or unclear now to "innate" than to explain exactly what "innate" is, how it works, and exactly what degree of freedoms there are. etc. Unless the field is serious about clearly explaining its subject of study, the phenomelogist stage of a field will continue. I am not saying that AI is not ad hoc either. AI is also at a phenomelogist stage, due to the lack of knowledge about intelligence development. AI people should study the results in neuroscience and psychology, especially the recent ones. (E.g., I wish that David Marr studied his theory in the context of development, since what he was talking about was a time snapshot of the later stage of continuous development of early visual processing. I am not saying this as a joke.) I predict that the biologically motivated computational models of automatic development will also have a positive impact on neuroscience and psychology. This is the synergism that this workshop is aiming at. Folks, please feel free to air your views. John